In the latest example of conservative talk radio show bucking that pesky concept of reality, WISN 1130 morning host Jay Weber spent a segment of his show this morning making the case that “Support for Obama Care is falling.”

Today the Kaiser Family Foundation released a poll showing that despite the consistent trumpeting by  the right and their spokesmen on the AM radio dial that support for Pres. Obama’s health care reform is losing support, support among the public for Pres. Obama’s health care reforms are actually gaining support.

The September Kaiser Health Tracking Poll finds that public support for health reform ended its summer slide, reversed course and moved modestly upwards in September.  The survey also finds initial majority support for taxing expensive health plans and imposing fees on insurers to pay for reform.

Fifty-seven percent of Americans now believe that tackling health care reform is more important than ever—up from 53 percent in August.  The proportion of Americans who think their families would be better off if health reform passes is up six percentage points (42% versus 36% in August), and the percentage who think that the country would be better off is up eight points (to 53% from 45% in August).

Substantial majorities of Americans continue to say they back individual reform components designed to expand coverage, including an individual mandate (68%), an employer mandate (67%) and an expansion of state programs such as Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (82%).- Kaiser Family Foundation

Once again, conservative talk show hosts are pushing an agenda and trying to create a perception that the public is on their side. And yet again, you have factual information flying smack in the face of the disinformation they’re trying to push.

There’s an interesting story in yesterday’s Journal Sentinel about the Milwaukee Police dept hanging out around a local gun store and pulling over some people after they’ve visited because the gun store in question is providing the vast majority of weapons used in gun crimes in Milwaukee. This, predictably, has the right in a tizzy.

Badger Guns, and its predecessor, Badger Outdoors, have accounted for roughly one-third of all crime guns traced by Milwaukee police in the past four years, the data shows. No other store in the state comes close to that figure. The next closest, The Shooters Shop in West Allis, accounted for less than 3% of guns traced by Milwaukee police during the same period.

A total of 1,880 crime guns recovered in Milwaukee were linked to Badger between January 2006 and Sept. 1 – or more than one a day, according to a Journal Sentinel analysis. - jsonline.com

Aside from the specific instance of “Badger Guns”, I wonder how this would be treated if there was a certain bar where people were continually getting drunk at and getting in their cars and driving drunk.

I mean, they’re both legal businesses selling legal products, right? The difference is that in the past, there have been bars which have been shut down because they’re constantly the source of the drunk drivers.

It’s a rhetorical question, but when two businesses are found to be the source of illegal activity, why is one shut down when the other is not only allowed to stay open, but strongly defended by some?

Some signs from the anti-Obama/Government/Health Care tea party protest in Milwaukee yesterday… The crowd didn’t disappoint, and sure enough the Obama = Hilter comparison was there.

Aside from the signs, it was a decent sized crowd. The vast vast majority of the people in attendance were over 50 and white. At the height of the event, I’d say there were several thousand people in attendance.

Some people saying there were 15,000 people there are way way overestimating it. Sheriff Clarke’s office might have had a bit more credibility with giving an estimate of the crowd size if the Sheriff hadn’t been participating in it.

This is unfortunate.

A fight broke out at the tea party rally today in Milwaukee, at least one person was injured.

I had left before the altercation, but Renee Crawford posted this on her weblog:

I hear a commotion. I looked up and saw an angry mob of angry white men chasing an older white man with a backpack. He was yelling “I have a right to free speech too.” The crowd was yelling, “You should die. You’re not an American., etc…” They started grabbing at him as he kept trying to leave the event. The crowd was growing (eventually to about 30 people) and the man clearly scared and angry and being grabbed, pushed and surrounded to impede his attempts to escape,

The man traveled about 300 yards attempting to escape the growing crowd. The crowd was riled up and screaming en masse, continuing to chase the man down, stop his movement, push and pull on his and in general attack the guy.

Then Joe the Plumber joined the tussle. I kid you not. I have no idea his role in it, just that he was IN THE MIDDLE of the crowd. The sheriffs get there, I turn to look at Joe the Plumber and the next thing I know the guy being assaulted by the crowd is bloody on the ground under the knee of two sheriffs and being cuffed. His face was bloody, there was something about a broken camera and I became scared of the crowd who were cheering and congratulating the sheriffs for “doing a great job”.

Details are still coming out… Regardless of who started it or how it started, this is unfortunate for Milwaukee. I’ll have video of the event tomorrow.

All the big players in modern conservatism, Malkin, Joe the Plumber, Americans for Prosperity, right wing talk show hosts, etc..  will be at Milwaukee’s lakefront to have an intelligent debate about the future of health care in America.

…with their “Obama is a Nazi”, “Next time we’ll bring our guns!” and other associated signs in hand of course!

Should be an interesting event. Judging by how last weekends similar event went in D.C. I’m sure the organizers will be touting a crowd size like this:

What the crowd will look like at tomorrow's Milwaukee Tea Bag party?