Comments on: Walker’s Proposals to Kick the Homeless to the Curb and Kill Programs for Elderly Isn’t Just Wrong, It’s Immoral http://dancody.org/archives/walkers-proposals-to-kick-the-homeless-to-the-curb-and-kill-programs-for-elderly-isnt-just-wrong-its-immoral.html Progressive commentary & Wisconsin politics by Dan Cody of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:19:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Taxed2much http://dancody.org/archives/walkers-proposals-to-kick-the-homeless-to-the-curb-and-kill-programs-for-elderly-isnt-just-wrong-its-immoral.html/comment-page-1#comment-60502 Taxed2much Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:09:09 +0000 http://dancody.org/?p=2760#comment-60502 Dan - my logic isn't tortured at all. The fact that I am using a casual number makes no difference if you are just trying to make a case for effectiveness. And don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything about having to satisfy a certain amount 'every' nite, as you suggested. Use some common sense. It has to do with a consistent vacancy of beds. THAT's why he suggested the cut. You're examples are foolish and have nothing to do with my point. Dan – my logic isn’t tortured at all. The fact that I am using a casual number makes no difference if you are just trying to make a case for effectiveness.
And don’t put words in my mouth. I never said anything about having to satisfy a certain amount ‘every’ nite, as you suggested. Use some common sense. It has to do with a consistent vacancy of beds. THAT’s why he suggested the cut.
You’re examples are foolish and have nothing to do with my point.

]]> By: Sean http://dancody.org/archives/walkers-proposals-to-kick-the-homeless-to-the-curb-and-kill-programs-for-elderly-isnt-just-wrong-its-immoral.html/comment-page-1#comment-60318 Sean Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:10:00 +0000 http://dancody.org/?p=2760#comment-60318 Dan, I don't believe he's suggesting cutting the entire program, just a portion of this program (as an example) because there is less usage of that service than originally projected. I'm not sure if those numbers are correct, but it is an example of many government run programs. The intent was noble and quite honestly could be argued necessary, but over time many of those programs become bloated with buercracy (and the people that program is supposed to help, suffer) and/or the service or program is no longer needed. Dan,

I don’t believe he’s suggesting cutting the entire program, just a portion of this program (as an example) because there is less usage of that service than originally projected. I’m not sure if those numbers are correct, but it is an example of many government run programs. The intent was noble and quite honestly could be argued necessary, but over time many of those programs become bloated with buercracy (and the people that program is supposed to help, suffer) and/or the service or program is no longer needed.

]]> By: Dan Cody http://dancody.org/archives/walkers-proposals-to-kick-the-homeless-to-the-curb-and-kill-programs-for-elderly-isnt-just-wrong-its-immoral.html/comment-page-1#comment-60273 Dan Cody Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:03:03 +0000 http://dancody.org/?p=2760#comment-60273 Are you just throwing around numbers, or do you have any actual data that support them? Even if I go with your fantasy numbers, you're saying that because a homeless shelter is not filled to capacity every night that we should shut it down? I mean, if we go with your tortured logic, then if there was a single empty bed at any point in time, all those who do use the shelter should be thrown out on the street. That's like saying if the freeway isn't suffering from traffic jams 24/7, it should be shut down because it's not being used to capacity. Or if funds to help start 100 new small businesses only attracts 90 entrepreneurs that those 90 should have their funding pulled because at a certain point in time it wasn't being utilized 100%. You might have better luck trying to make your point if it were bound in any kind of rational thinking. Are you just throwing around numbers, or do you have any actual data that support them?

Even if I go with your fantasy numbers, you’re saying that because a homeless shelter is not filled to capacity every night that we should shut it down? I mean, if we go with your tortured logic, then if there was a single empty bed at any point in time, all those who do use the shelter should be thrown out on the street.

That’s like saying if the freeway isn’t suffering from traffic jams 24/7, it should be shut down because it’s not being used to capacity. Or if funds to help start 100 new small businesses only attracts 90 entrepreneurs that those 90 should have their funding pulled because at a certain point in time it wasn’t being utilized 100%.

You might have better luck trying to make your point if it were bound in any kind of rational thinking.

]]> By: Taxed2much http://dancody.org/archives/walkers-proposals-to-kick-the-homeless-to-the-curb-and-kill-programs-for-elderly-isnt-just-wrong-its-immoral.html/comment-page-1#comment-60262 Taxed2much Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:54:52 +0000 http://dancody.org/?p=2760#comment-60262 If you were paying say $10 a bed, for 1000 beds but only using 700 beds, would you continue to charge taxpayers for $1000 beds??? You need to stop crying "slow a painful death to innocent woman and babies if we don't.....!!!!" and shift to some realistic facts.. If you were paying say $10 a bed, for 1000 beds but only using 700 beds, would you continue to charge taxpayers for $1000 beds???

You need to stop crying “slow a painful death to innocent woman and babies if we don’t…..!!!!” and shift to some realistic facts..

]]> By: Taxed2much http://dancody.org/archives/walkers-proposals-to-kick-the-homeless-to-the-curb-and-kill-programs-for-elderly-isnt-just-wrong-its-immoral.html/comment-page-1#comment-60261 Taxed2much Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:44:54 +0000 http://dancody.org/?p=2760#comment-60261 It all sounds really really bad, doesn't it? But at what point, would YOU cut off spending? Especially if the beds in the homeless shelters are remaining EMPTY? Or are you not concerned with the effectiveness of the programs....hmmm It all sounds really really bad, doesn’t it? But at what point, would YOU cut off spending? Especially if the beds in the homeless shelters are remaining EMPTY?
Or are you not concerned with the effectiveness of the programs….hmmm

]]> By: In Brief: Doyle Recall Losing Steam, Walker’s War on the Poor, Brewers Second Half Begins » Dan Cody - “Left on the Lake” http://dancody.org/archives/walkers-proposals-to-kick-the-homeless-to-the-curb-and-kill-programs-for-elderly-isnt-just-wrong-its-immoral.html/comment-page-1#comment-60140 In Brief: Doyle Recall Losing Steam, Walker’s War on the Poor, Brewers Second Half Begins » Dan Cody - “Left on the Lake” Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:43:45 +0000 http://dancody.org/?p=2760#comment-60140 [...] wrote about it late last night, but it bares repeating: The County Executive’s plan to which cuts funding for seniors, the [...] [...] wrote about it late last night, but it bares repeating: The County Executive’s plan to which cuts funding for seniors, the [...]

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